This morning, it was confirmed that Disneyland Paris would be retiring free FastPasses and replacing them with Disney Premier Access (not to be confused with Disney+ Premier Access). It seems likely that this service will also come to Walt Disney World and Disneyland Resort soon.
Guests can choose to purchase Disney Premier Access via the Disneyland Paris App, or at select locations inside the parks. They can then use the digital service to book an assigned time slot for some attractions and skip the standby queue. Prices vary from 8€ to 15€ ($9.46 to $17.74) per person per ride, depending on the attraction and day of use.
Walt Disney World is leaning more on the My Disney Experience App with the recent launch of MagicMobile Pass, allowing guests to use their smartphone as their entry ticket. It makes sense that this would later extend to FastPass use.
FastPasses have yet to return to either Walt Disney World or Disneyland Resort. Some FastPass machines have even been removed at Disney California Adventure, so it’s possible they may not return at all.
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We all knew it was inevitable, for better or for worse is in the eye of the beholder at any given time.
It’s only inevitable if people don’t speak up!
They don’t care about words. They only care about money. Yet the polls say the super rich want nothing to do with Disney. Probably because they are smart with their money.
The super rich love this stuff. The higher prices keep the peasants out.
Nah, we don’t.
A deluxe with less amenities than a than a mid-tier JW or Regency? No thanks.
I love disney, but disney world is a gross overpriced dirty mess. It’s Japan for me.
Business class there, stay at Miracosta, and enjoy the cleanliness and actual top notch service for a theme park.
Sincerely,
Me- who is maybe not super rich. But pretty damn wealthy.
They just pay to go when they want with ambassadors and special privileges…they don’t want to muck around with the rest of us pedestrians
That price per ride is a little much. It would be easier to swallow as a lump sum you paid for access to every ride. I guess if you pick and choose the heavy hitters known for long waits, it may be worth it.
Agreed, a per-ride cost seems terrible, would be much better if they just copied Universal and did a flat fee for all. Much easier to swallow than paying like $60 bucks for a family to cut one line. But Disney will certainly make more money this way.
Prob is then the line is long because so many people have it
Exactly this ! If you don’t spread this out over more rides, then everyone is paying $20 to wait 3 hours for Tron, compared 8 hours or not riding at all.
bro thats easy money
No, please no. All I want is to be able to enjoy 3 rides with my 2 year old. Not roller coasters or thrill rides – just some of the less popular attractions with minimal to no wait.
That is what FastPass+ offered and this seemingly does not.
This is great news for those with unlimited money and people who have just loved standing in standby lines, though.
Pressler 2.0
Nickle and dime while adding no value.
Bang up job Josh. Bang up job
Pretty soon only the rich will be able to go to the parks……
That’s not the case now?
No we working class stiffs will save for Disney when we want save for our children’s futures.
I dont see it being pre ride makes no sense i could see for the trip or day ..
this seems like a good idea gone wrong. Universal basically has a all access fast pass (with repeat option) for a reasonable price and they still make plenty on it by limiting the number of them per day. If you are decent size family and want to use this on even a few rides at Disney, this would cost more than one all access fast pass at Universal. Feels like the wrong decision.
The only logic I can see in it, is if a family truly only cares about skipping the line on 1-2 rides max, it works out cheaper. Basically guaranteeing you can ride the one you most value, but having regular standby for the rest.
Um, Gamble? I wanna ride ALL the rides. In 2014, we were able to finagle and ride all but 2 rides in MK with 2 kids.
this kinda seems like the Return of the A,B,C,D,E ride ticket books, but instead of prices in Cents, you now pay same in Dollars. Timing is perfect, they could say its for the 50th. Harping on your nostalgia .
Nevertheless this will provide a much deserved luxury experience for those high rollers that dont want to wait in lines.
Much deserved? Ok. This is ridiculous.
ill pay for it you stand in line while i drop 30k at disney :)))
Get real. Disney will will always be a hot crowded sweaty mess with rude people pushing you. The more they charge, the more crowded it gets. The polls say the super rich want nothing to do with Disney. They are smart with their money.
We need to realize that the new goal is the bottom line. They have been bad mouthing the local residents for years making passes unaffordable. Rest In Peace, Disney Magic.
Except with the E ticket etc, you got into the park completely free. Then you could buy a book of tickets or singles for different rides. Or you could just go on the free rides, yes there were awesome free rides, shop, eat, and enjoy Disney World absolutely free.
That’s a fast pass for me. I can only be nickel and dimed so far.
broke
Somehow I am not feeling the need to pay twice for an attraction after already buying a very expensive admission ticket. Talk about nickel and diming one to death.
you didnt pay for the ride you paid for the admission….loool
we went to mickey’s very merry christmas once. it was so crowded because disney oversold the event badly. i wonder how long until this new special service you have to buy will become the same thing? oversold and you still wait in long lines. and pay for the privilege.
Disney is creating solutions to problems they intentionally create. The parks should be open from 8am to midnight every day with all the demand there is but that would make it easy for people to actually get on rides without paying more.
Absolutely NOT a fan of this! You can’t claim to be special and then follow Universal, Sea World and others in cash grabs like this.
bro then dont use it lmao
No name calling please just a fun conversation 🙂
Right now with limited capacity the standby queues are not to terrible in a lot of peoples opinion. When capacity returns to normal and the standby line gets to waits over 3 and 4 hours, a huge bottleneck will occur. People will then wish for fastpass to return.
Disney will need to do something to alleviate this type of situation. Since they have been getting rid of a lot of other experiences to absorb people, like live and/or impromptu entertainment (i.e. British Revolution, World Showcase players, etc.), they will need to do something like bring fastpass back to help alleviate wait times.
I am not sure I agree with this method, but something needs to be done. I for one wish for the return of the meet and greets and live entertainment. To me that is the stuff that added the Disney magic that has been missing even before the pandemic era.
This is an expected move, especially to recover from the losses due to closure during pandemic. My one thought is that I hope Disney adds fastpass options into the annual passes so they are paid ahead of time.
Why do consumers have to pay for something we didn’t cause. Disney fastpass is suppose to be a perk for staying on property. You must work for Bob C. himself.
Fastpass has never been a perk for staying on property… do you mean extra magic hours?? Because I think you are confused. From the beginning it was openly available for anyone that bought a park ticket and extremely useful if you knew how to exploit the advantages the FP system could give you with some pre-planning.
Bob Chapek has totally ruined Disney World. 9th in rating of fav. place to vacation. That’s disgusting. Now its rumored he wants us to pay 10-20 bucks a ride??? I have been an avid Disney fan for years. I am not questioning Mickey. Its that crap filled CEO that has taken a number one vacation spot, removed the magic and added the $$$ and made Disney fall to 9th place. If he really wants to get rid of fast pass, he should grow a pair and tell Americans outright so we can cancel vacations and go else where. Sea World seems good since its now #1.
It was the reason to stay on Disney property. The fast pass was a benefit for paying more to stay on compared to staying off property. Now it’s an added fee? Widening the gap between who can and who cannot afford the experience. Not what Walt ever intended.
I have a feeling premier access unlimited will be included with certain hotel stays which will be like $1000/night lol. So I think if you can afford that you’ll be fine.
Rich people can already pay for vip tours to skip the lines
You could do fastpass without staying onsite
Not for the good rides because you couldn’t book 60 days out
Not initially… and then only on the day of once you bought your park pass. Just another example of how they take away from annual passholders and those who pay to stay on site
Not originally.
Right,! I can’t imagine why anyone would ever stay on property ever now. There is zero benefit.
Fast pass was available to all, but extended hours was only available for those who stayed on grounds. In the beginning there was a minimal cost so lines where short and no small children as parents did not want to pay for them. But there where extra hours that did not cost anything for the small ines.
Then it was open to all who stay on grounds at no additionalcost. Sadly there are parents dragging tired crying children who need to be in bed now so extended hours tend to be crowded to.
Don’t forget Joshy boy. He was supposed to be the chosen one everybody raved about. He is in charge of all parks now
Chapek is a power hungry person. If Josh questioned chapels authority and decisions he would probably be fired and I think he knows that.
I agree old Bob has got to go. American people need to petition board of directors to remove him. He is ruining everything.
so no early or late hours, no fast pass or Disney dining. What exactly does that leave for perks for staying on property???? This is wrong Mr. Chapek. Just wrong.
Don’t forget Joshy boy
Also no magical express (free bussing to and from the airport to the hotels) starting next year
Pretty soon, WDW will only cater to the super-rich. It’s already a small fortune to get there, then to pay per ride to avoid an hours long wait? Although there are sightings of FastPass kiosks uncovered in Disney World, with some even turned on, so hope is not lost yet. Now they just need to fix Rise of the Resistance so it’s not a lotto as to who gets to ride!
According to polls, the super rich want nothing to do with Disney. Yet Disney only wants the super rich to visit.
it will probably just cater to people living near Disney World that don’t have to take vacation time, pay plane tickets and hotels. Time to call for Chapek to be removed.
Discontinued uses of the free fast pass is just another example of making WDW, and it’s other properties, just for the upper crust of Society. It’s expensive enough to just get in, then they add a surcharge for their “MagicMoble Pass”. At a cost of $9.46 to $17.74 a person per ride. This is just a money grab by Disney to make up for the money they lost during Covid. It’s not fair to the less fortunate of us you barely have enough money to go to Disney as it is and then add this on top of it. It’s embarrassing and it’s a shame that they tarnish Mickey’s reputation this way.
According to polls, the super rich want nothing to do with Disney World, yet that is who they cater to.
Bro we get it. The super rich don’t want to go “according to polls”. You don’t have to spam it everywhere.
The reason the prices are going up is the same concept as the whales who ruin games with pay to win. I have talked to people on message boards who love the trend of Disney increasing prices because they want to keep other people out and can afford whatever cost no matter what. Apparently there are enough rich people going to Disney regardless of what some polls say.
Yes this is probably true. The problem is it creates a cancerous decline that onsets slowly. It starts with losing goodwill, then becomes resentment. And then after a generation that cherished the old Disney parks is gone or aged out too far, the new generations don’t care about the parks history as it holds no special place for them. Thus they start putting their money elsewhere. And it’s at THAT point that Disney will regret it. But it’s a generation away, so the current leadership doesn’t care.
Gamble, you are absolutely correct! Disney will tread just fine with the latest money-grabbing and “woke” moves they are making at their parks. However, since my kids will not have the affinity for Disney that I did growing up and going to the parks in the 90s, their generation will not care and the Disney brand will eventually fade. Already has begun, but it’s a slow decline.
Booo!
That’s diametrically opposed to the mission behind Walt Disney – he wanted AFFORDABLE family entertainment.
Chapek doesn’t care about Walt or his dream. He is laughing as he is collecting the $$$. Chapek knows Americans will take out a second loan on their house to pay for Halloween tickets. Sucks. Its time to get board of directors to remove Chapek before Disney is totally obsolete.
This is just stupid. When FP was first introduced, Disney leaders were overjoyed to find that a secondary thing that happened was that people would tend to gravitate around the attraction before their FP time and they were spending more money at gift shops and food. If they do away with it for this mess, they won’t have that anymore.
One other thing- will they only offer this to resort guests? One of the attractions of staying on property is the early access to FP. If I don’t get that anymore, I don’t need to stay on property. I haven’t gone off property for 20 years. And I just take a Lyft to the parks. I am out from staying on property
Also, as someone pointed out, when capacity fully returns and there are 3-4 hour lines, guest satisfaction will plummet.
However, I can’t say that I wouldn’t spend a few bucks to buy the opportunity to not have to get up at 5 AM to sweat through trying to get FP – that process is pretty challenging.
I don’t know – Disney doesn’t need this money, and they need to consider how they treat their guests.
I agree that Chapek needs to go. Worse than latter years Eisner. And that’s saying a lot.
So Disney is bringing back the ride ticket books at higher prices without paying for printing?? Bad idea. I really hope this doesn’t come to WDW.
I get it, you have a business to run. Unfortunately your business is so popular that managing the crowds is unbearable. Great solution to simply up the price to the point where less people can visit. Great solution, no reason to build more attractions on your mostly empty 27,000 acres, no reason at all. I know 2020 was a hard year, but how much money have you made the decade prior?
Walt Disney is rolling in his grave. This is against what he built. The theme park ticket is already expensive. My wallet won’t get thinner. I have no desire to go to Disney to shop and eat… there are many normal theme parks nearby. We travel almost annually and Stay in resort which is already outrageous. What ashame!!
Maybe Disney wants everyone to sell back their DVC purchases? So many of the reasons we purchased the program were for all the perks of staying on property. Nearly every decision the management has made is up side down and backwards. Maybe they don’t want to be in the theme park business anymore?
Well that’s our trip to Disney Paris next March cancelled. How could they! after the rubbish 2 years we have all had. What a kick in the teeth this is. Profit, profit is that all Disney cares about. This is a bonus for the well off who won’t have to stand in queues whilst the rest of us poor folks stand in line watching as the people better off than us get a 1st class service. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Will you still make the trip to Paris? Different destination?
I’m struggling with this myself. I’ve already changed plans for one trip and out of my remaining two planned trips next year, I am considering changing at least one more as well.
I have a strong dislike for the nickle and dime act of paying per ride per person. That combined with unhappy people and limited options on entertainment makes me think there has to be more to try elsewhere.
I had a friend I used to work with who would send his family to WDW for a couple of weeks and after making early morning house calls, he would fly down for the day, and catch the latest flight back each night. Not perfect, but he spent a couple days each vacation week with the kids, and loved the family atmosphere Disney could provide. I wonder if his feelings would change now…
If not Disney, where will you spend your vacation dollars?
Our household income is over half a million dollars and yet we will NOT be purchasing FP for any rides to support this. How is this fair, and how is this worth it?? Now I see why as a kid why my family did free vacations to the beach and here or there did one day at the local theme park, Hershey Park. My husband’s barber spent five years saving up to take his two daughters to Disney World. How can you ask more of people when they’re spending $1,000 on just a couple days worth of tickets for a small family. We’ve been to universal as well and even then decided to not to their FP bc $90 a day per person is crazy.
WHY NOT, hear me out Disney, charge like $80 per FAMILY per DAY. That’s still a ton of money, too much in my opinion but way more reasonable than what’s being talked about. That’d be an extra $480 for my family (we always do 6 days). Also, families ride rides together, so how are 4 people sitting on a 4 person ride going to cause more of a back up or delay than one person on a 4 person ride?!
I call this the next chapter in “Disney hates the middle class.”
No one else is cheap either, but a move like this makes Universal Express look like a bargain, I think I used it like 40 times last year when I went, which would have saved me $800 over what I paid with the special they had at the time compared to ONLY the CHEAPEST option of this new system.. $1500 if you averaged $12 per use.
Can anyone say rip off?!
They so badly want to sell off the parks they’re all sjw for higher wages and then do everything in their power to cut back the amount of employees needed.
You will see more people “all of a sudden” in wheel chairs scamming the system to bypass this latest rip off
You sure that is per ride and not per ride TIER? I cannot see them charging per single ride. They don’t even do that in California where they have had paid Fastpass for a long time. It would make sense that you would pay more to have the E-ticket ride tier options in your pool to choose from but I really can’t see paying per single ride. However, even if they do charge per ride, this will cut Fastpass lines way down since fewer people would opt for that…so the price would be worth it for the guarantee of getting on certain big rides on limited timeframe trips. I will hold judgment until it’s confirmed what is going on. All parks are different. WDW being the biggest of all of them with the most attendance so it may still work differently than the others. As you state..this is all still just a rumor.
As a recent Disney Resort guest I wouldn’t have been able to afford a Fast Pass if it was offered because my spare vacation cash went to paying to park my car for a week in their parking lot. Disney now takes more cash and gives far less value to guest already paying over-inflated rates for their motels, and this will be my family’s last vacation there unless something improves drastically in their value proposition.
What a joke… Maybe Disney can charge 50 dollars a car to park too… Some people save for so long to be able to go to the park and to maybe get 3 or 4 rides without an extreme wait… Maybe Disney should really think about the guest experience!! C’mon man…
15 bucks is outrageous. Make it $5-7 a ride and I would consider it, sadly…
I probably would too. Isn’t it sad?
This new CEO is going to drive Disney into the ground. Market research has just shown that those in the income bracket that can actually afford Disney don’t really want to attend and are choosing other vacation destinations. However, the largest consumer segment that has the highest propensity to vacation at Disney is in a lower income bracket. This move just makes this group even less likely to afford a trip to Disney. Smart move Disney….you need to revamp your whole marketing team and bring in talent that actually knows how to strategize based on consumer market research. I am beginning to believe Disney is turning into the pro sports world. Charging higher and higher prices forcing the middle income families to go elsewhere and not attend at all.
Disney makes divisions because my magic plusdata is telling them how much they can ripp people off with little consequences. Their data is more comprehensive than whatever outside market research there is.
Take the outrage at the Boo Bash prices, and then….. they sold out all tickets for Halloweeen on day one. Phone lines crashed. So much demand they add additional dates. Disney knows exactly what they are doing, they are testing where the breaking point is. until people stop going, stop paying the prices, start going to universal instead this will continue. Maybe there are not enough people with enough cash to pay up and realize their dream of less people in the park while making more money, but heck this new group of managers is going to try it.
I cannot afford the price. It’s already too much and now this. Sigh.
Disney has gone money crazy, form paying to park at a hotel that charges $500 for a $200 Marriott look alike room , to cutting corners on restaurant menus to wanting to have added charges for anything they can, they make dropping annual passes an easy decision.
There’s more to this story about a free option similar to fp+ this is poor reporting to not include that
Nothing is announced and Paris has standby pass, which is just to enter the standby, not another way into a FastPass queue.
No one is shocked by this and Disney will keep doing this as long as people keep feeding their greed. More and more they aim to make these parks only for the wealthy. Less benefits for the everyday family and prime access for those that can pay out.
Im done I just can’t afford to go anymore. I got to go twice but this is too much.
The “bubble” has burst for me. We are going to Disney this December solely to be able to use the tickets Disney wouldn’t refund after canceling are trip because of covid. We were going to dine at a Disney restaurant every day (family of 6 adults) and stay at a deluxe villa. Because of availability, and not wanting to award disney with more of our money in light of some many of their value cut backs yet price increases. We are staying off site and will dine at a very few restaurants by disney. After this trip, Disney world will no longer be a vacation destination for us. If Orlando is a destination for us in the future, it will be Universal with maybe, and I mean maybe a disney park sprinkled in.
Daniel, same with us. I couldn’t get my money refunded from our May 2020 trip (rescheduled 4 times due to COVID), so we are finally going in April 2022 to say “good-bye” and move on with my life. Our vacation dollars in Florida will now be spent in Sarasota and Naples where we have family. Just sad.
Wow, the cost per ride is crazy! Multiply that for a family of 4… they are going to make visiting the park cost prohibitive for so many!
I know people are going to come for you and say, “That’s what they want” but the truth is, we will pay. We will pay en masse. Sad.
Ridiculous. We have not been to Disney in 15 years, but we’re going in August. While we expect an expensive price tag for our trip, this is just adding insult to injury. Understand why fastpass was stopped turning pandemic, but this is NOT an incentive to get people back.
If they do this they will definitely lose my business. I booked 12 day Vacation before COVID and have seen so much of my value taken away. Still haven’t used my vacation that has been prepaid for 3 years and if they do that I may just get a refund
Why stay on property when you get rid of “free” Magical Express and now fast passes. Resorts will be hurting with no advantages to stay there vs cheaper options. I bet Walt is rolling in his grave.
I 100% agree with this! We were just looking into the resorts last week to plan our trip for next Spring and we figured why even bother staying on resort?! We’ll happily be driving 18 mins one way each day and pay for parking at the parks so that we can pay $130/night With free parking for our suite with a whole kitchen, separate bedroom, and living room. We stayed there the other two years and enjoyed it more than staying on Disney property bc on Disney property, you have to drive so darn far to even get to a grocery store. It’s just annoying. And having a mini fridge with no microwave is difficult with infants and toddlers. WDWs decisions are making it easy to say yes to other options.
If I wanted to pay extra for rides I’d vaca at Universal.
The sad thing is that they know they have the upper hand on families with small children because there’s a lot more for them to enjoy at WDW than universal. If universal was smart, they’d put an addition onto the park with more child friendly rides.
So here we go again just another way for disney to make even more money. It will soon be too expensive for the ordinary person.
My family and i spend 10 days at Disney World every year and spend about $10,000 total on our vacation there, every single year. But, if this type of greedy “paid service” comes to disney world we will no longer be customers there. It’s not about the money, it’s about principle and the magic which the people in charge at disney world are destroying with some of their business choices.
This is unfortunate. A lot of disabled people who need a DAS also used fast passes for the rest of the rides as we can’t actually stand in the que (…that’s the point of the DAS). If forced to rely solely on a “one at a time” DAS and unable to wait in a normal que and ride any rides in between, this pushes people with these disabilities to either pay a lot more for their visit (AND their family….per person) or get to ride 1/4 to half the rides they normally would. Ticket costs are much too high for this to make sense for most. Therefore, Disney loses a LOT of value to these disabled consumers with this move. This was already an issue for my family at Universal but we were impacted less as there are less parks. We opted to stay at a higher-end resort for 2 nights of our 10 day trip to get the express passes, but the cost difference was around $100+/night to $300+/night. This isn’t really feasible at Disney (if they did the same), it would raise the cost exponentially.
The cost continues to go up yet value has not. If they saw their consumers as businessmen/women doing a CBA (cost/benefit analysis) they would understand it’s not worth it to most people. They would notice that they may nickle and dime a bit from some families, but they’re actually losing more than they gain as others will NOT be spending a lot MORE money on their hotels, parks, souvenirs, food, etc. Without enough ROI (return on investment) items, people will choose to forego the trip entirely.
I certainly see them including these passes with their expensive resorts like Universal (that’s a good ROI item for an expensive property as it costs them nothing and adds value to the consumer). They’ll get more bookings with those resorts but much less on their others (as those have lost massive value/ROI without fastpass and airport transfers, etc). If I were Disney, I’d include it with ALL property resorts. It’ll keep resort bookings high and be less impactful to those on budget, meaning those families can still take this sort of trip.
For a company who claims to be inclusive and family-friendly, they are certainly doing their damnedest to not show it, making it more difficult for some of their disabled guests to attend and further propagating the wealth gap.
I agree that taking away Fastpass for non-resort guests and giving them to resort guests automatically would be a good move to get people to stay in their resorts. The question is, will they?
how were fastpasses ever “free”? you had to stay on property. this is just another smack in the face by d’amaro to dvc members who spent a lot of money and those that stay on property and spend a lot of money. they have already made the blue cards practically worthless.
They were available to everyone.
true. but not all had the premium of booking them months in advance.
I would book Seven Dwarfs Mine Train the day-of, it wasn’t an issue if you tried.
i did not say you couldn’t. all i said was staying on property allowed you to book fast passes months in advance of your trip. that means you had first dibs tom. if first dibs were gone on the mine train you would have never got on. you should have tried the same thing for star wars. i bet the same day would have been, “are you kidding”?
People cancel and rearrange plans, with some effort you could’ve booked any ride or any dining reservation day-of.
For 5 people?
Yeah lol
So for a family of 4 to ride 4 rides on FP it would be anywhere from an additional $160 to $288. This on top of the cost of tickets. What is the point of buying a ticket at over $100 to MK and then another $10-$20 for each FP? That puts the cost of a ticket at MK to almost $200 if you get 3 FPs. I think it is time to find another place to go on vacation
Yes, we all saw this coming sooner or later. This will cater to the rich and or families will take a loan out go in debt to give their kids “The Disney Experience” It’s bad enough Disney is already expensive as it is.
It is no longer an “experience”. It is a money pit
I will admit I hopped they would remove fast pass all together after the pandemic. When I was in the parks post covid it seemed much more fair to me since there was no fast way to ride. Yes, I know that no one wants to wait in lines, but its part of the experience. I would be disappointed with a pay to play system as it would just increase the “Experience” price, and again have a model where some get to go faster than others.
I do however understand the $$ involved. Universal and even seaworld are raking in loads of money on “Express” line charges. So naturally Disney would do the same. Wondering how this would effect virtual queues?
That would be ridiculous, even if they charge the same amount as Universal Studios that is $69.99 per day per person. For a family of 4 going for 5 days it would be $1,399.00 more. That is almost 50% more than their entire vacation cost. They had to find a way to make up all the money lost during the pandemic. I’m going to need a stimulus check to go to Disney. . .lol
The price you used as an example states per person, per ride. I would think that was a mistake. Not sure how they would charge $10 per ride per person if the daily admission is already over a $100.
That’s literally what they are already charging in Shanghai and Paris, so it’s correct.
okay, i’ll say it. disney needs to add a new tombstone to the haunted mansion. with the epitaph of wwwd on it! because what would walt do seems to be dead at disney.
I have been going to Disney world since 1990, this will probably be my family’s last vacation there. Every thing is getting more and more expensive. Even the Boo bash is over $100. per person. That would be $500 for me and for what and extra parade and some candy. Get back to the times where Disney was magical and not how much money we can get out of you
I wonder if this will eat into their 10k VIP options… Because isn’t that basically the same concept? The VIP option gets you cutting in every line basically (except ROTR)…
This is dumb. I’m not surprised Disney took this route, but I had hoped they wouldn’t. I don’t pay for this perk at Universal or any other amusement parks. I liked the previous fast pass system and just wish they’d bring that back. Paying for it is just wrong.
Disney just keeps getting worse all the time. With all of the recent poor decisions the company has been making, they’re sucking any of the remaining Magic out of the parks and making it’s fans pay more for diminishing experiences
My only wish since we would be at the most magical place on earth would be guest that are on any Disney property would get fass pass with your stay . That would be a dream come true.
Walt would be so ashamed at how they are catering to the rich and now the poor cannot enjoy Disney anymore.
They have taken away the transportation from the airport, if they now make us pay for Fastpasses then why stay on property, why would I stay in their resorts?? Bye Mickey!
Yerp.
Thanks for making it an absolutely easy choice not to visit the parks. Goodness I swear its as though no one learned a thing during the 90s at Disney.
Greed!!!!!!! When you have to mortgage your home to take your family to Disney. It’s time to change venues. National Parks etc. What a shame.
I feel that the cost of Disneyland is already outrageous. The average cost for a family of 4 is 1/4 of a year’s worth of an average person’s income. I feel that this is shameful! Disney needs to stop being so greedy or it’s going to alienate the people who visit their parks.
Again this is just so sad. People save up for years to be able to take these trips as it is. Adding more and more paid options that used to be free is just absolutely wrong. Disney is all about being “inclusive” but is only going to treat the super rich to the experiences that used to be shared by all if you could manage to afford a trip. No magical express, no complementary magic bands, no early access to fast pass and making it a paid service (if this is true), no extra magic hours just nonsense “early park entry” 30 minutes before the park opens and “extended evening hours” for those staying at deluxe $500+ per night resorts. It just breaks my heart because I know that the experiences I had pre-pandemic and a lot of people have had will be gone..and future visitors won’t get those same experiences. It’s just wrong and shameful what Disney is doing.
Seems like a VIP tour would be cheaper depending on the number in your group.
Probably what we will do whenever we go again. We’ll do all the rides in 2 hours and then enjoy the parks. LOL
Just another way for them to get more money. We are DVC members and have stopped going because of this nickel and diming!
Born and raised in so. Cal. In 1955, I’ve been a Disney fan literally all my life. A DVC owner, and twice yearly ( for 18 to 22 days each), for over 15 years. If this happens I guess I will have to get used to Sea World and Universal. This was a way for us as retirees to enjoy living like the rich a few times a year. You are pricing us out of it. Sad days.
From what I heard while I was at Disneyland on July 2nd and 3rd from “Tinkerbell”😉😉 was MaxxPass would be back sometime around November.
i find this odd. the original reason for fast passes was the concept that people standing in line were not buying stuff. so now we are going to charge them to not stand in line so they might buy more stuff? the bean counters at disney are worse than the ones at GM. by the way, GM ranks about next to last in overall customer satisfaction. it appears those that GM fired now work for cheapact and d-amaro.
Absoloute disgrace. As Brits we oay thousands of pounds as whole families for extended stays often 14 or 21 nights to then be expected to pay extra per person per ride is not acceptable.
This will mean regular que lines will be awful. This elitist attitide Disney is leaning toward to dispicable. It means those who can afford (or are stupid enough) to pay for rides they have ALREADY purchased a park ticket will have an entirely different part experience than those who can’t.
Disney has become increasingly expensive over the years but due to the amount Disney offer ive rolled with it.
But as someone who has visited walt disney world for 30 years this division of wealth that Disney is creating coukd very well see my next trip being my last.
You dont know this will happen. You bloggers dont know anything. You bloggers think you know everything about Disney. Get a life. You don’t have any information from Disney.
Yeah, we’ve never been right ;)
I don’t see where it says they “know this will happen.” The headline prominently features the word “RUMOR” right up front.
Bob, is that you?
I may not be the Bob YOU’RE looking for, but yes, it’s me. I am Bob.
This is not suprising, was expexted when Bob Chapek became CEO with all he did prior to becoming CEO(like charging for parking resort, etc). Seems we will have to have to wait a long time to get another real CEO that can really wear the ears with dignity.
They’re missing the point of this whole “Walt Disney” thing – its about giving the average folks of the world a magical time, not turning the theme parks into a massive, overpriced mall, then charging for every little thing.
I was a Silver Annual Pass holder prior to the recent unpleasantness, am a local and former cast member back in the early ’90’s. No way in “H-E-Double hockey sticks” am I going back until there is regime change. I didn’t even ride that many rides, but I did spend $$$ on concessions and beverages.
#firechapek
#firedamaro
#banthebobs
#DISregimechangetime
#RememberWalt
Straight up this little turn has cost them at least three Silver Annual Passes (if they’re ever offered again), and the $1500-2000 (conservative estimate) me and mine would have spent on concessions, beverages, and merch. Might have to buy a couple of shares of stock and start voting at shareholder meetings. Additionally, I wont be evangelizing as much about The Mouse as I have in the past. If the Corporation doesn’t show any loyalty to people like me, why should I show any loyalty to it?
Sorry for the rant.
Another reason I’m glad that I can get a medical pass at theme parks .I don’t like taking advantage because I feel my medical condition isnt that bad I can wait or use fast pass but now this is going to make stand by line worse than ever definitely looks like I’m going to be relying on a medical pass now :/
It’s like a local fair. You have to pay for each ride, otherwise, all you’re getting is access to the popcorn stand and the sweaty guy next to you.
Yes but at the local fair, no admission fee
It’s already expensive to go to the parks with the prices of food and souvenirs, now we have to pay for a service that they were offering for free? I’m very disappointed and would rather see them gone for good than be expected to pay for a fast pass. 👎🏼😢😢
This rumor should not have been posted. Please stop posting rumor articles speculating what WDW will do with the return of Fastpass (or any other changes might I add).
All it did was cause a stir, so now travel agents and Disney groups on social media are swamped with guests asking about this. I can only imagine what it’s like for someone in Disney’s call center taking a call asking or complaining about this.
We’ve been doing this for 14 years, I don’t think we’ll stop posting rumors.
Good. They should be asking about this. If they are spending the type on money that Disney wants them to spend, they should know what may be coming before they spend all that cash. These “rumors” just didn’t spring up out of nothing. They are already started doing this in parks around the world, which as we know are often testing grounds for what they bring here. The idea is the to have less capacity with more money coming from each guest. This brings down operating costs. I say…complain away
If people pay, they will keep it. If people stop going/dont pay per ride I think they would drop it. Simple. Majority rules ya no. Weird they want to price out familys. We are a family of 5 amd I could never see paying 10-20bucks per person per ride after hotel amd admission and we are big Disney heads who love vacationing there. I read somewhere that they would be times during the day where standby lines wont even be available. Greedy cash grab. Sad they are like this now…sucking all the “magic” out of the vacation to line there already full pockets
Felt the need to comment . . . I live in Ohio, and they added a paid program at the amusement park here. It is upwards of $100 per day, limited to a certain number of people. While it looks good on paper, skip the lines for a nominal fee, it has absolutely destroyed the “regular” lines. It is not unheard of, even before, for there to be 1-2 hour waits for the big ticket rides. With Fast lane, they are now 3-4 hour lines. Also, they slowly took away perks for passholders, making it hardly worth bothering. I had a season pass every summer for 15 years, and then just stopped going. By trying to make a few extra bucks, they alienated all the loyal guests. Now the only people who go are the one time only visitors.
If this sounds at all familiar, it’s EXACTLY what Disney is now doing. We can all complain, but the only thing they care about is money. Until (or if) things turn around I will spend my money elsewhere. No Disney store purchases, no Disney streaming service, and definitely not Disney vacation.
I think it’s terrible that they keep raising prices on everything. Disney was meant to be a magical place to take your children and be able to have wonderful memories of the best vacation ever. Today you can’t afford to take a family of average income there. Now just another way to make it more unaffordable. We have always loved going to Disney for years. But now it’s all changing and not for the better. Very sad!!!!!!!
Hear me out, guys because *THIS* is a *_deliciously_* evil plan.
(Since you’re already using your smartphone for everything on this (now) godforsaken property) Upon arriving at the queue for a ride:
1. your phone will let you know what the current standby wait time is x amount of time
2. The app will gently nudge you (with some exploding, onscreen, firework fanfare) by asking if you would like to get “premier access” for x amount of dollars per person and that you only have x amount of time to decide (probably 1-2 minutes)
3. You quietly think to yourself, “Hmmm, $40 to ride FoP in a 30-minute line, or wait for 3 hours…”
My guess? Even those on the tightest of budgets will at the very least ENTERTAIN the thought…if they don’t just end up throwing money at it and diving into the Disney dreamworld head-first. I mean, when you see something like $40 for one ride it may not seem like a lot once you’re AT Disney. I.e., telling yourself this is a ____ in a lifetime trip, or a _rare_ pleasure, and why-the-heck-not-just-do-it type-of-thing. I think many (not all) middle and upper-middle-class will do it. I believe the lower-middle will silently suffer in the standby lines, knowing that the expense is really as ridiculous as it seems. Time is money, and this new Disney is asking if you, indeed, feel that way. In my opinion, Disney would actually be losing OUT on making money if they offered this beforehand…unless you had to wait to be at the ticket counter to purchase it (doubtful). Piecemeal is the way to make the big dollars, and–like others have already stated–WE are the idiots for choosing to keep paying into their aggrandized version of what Disney is worth. Don’t get me wrong, Disney was ALWAYS a status symbol of sorts, but now…well, I’m only glad I stayed onsite and took all my children many times before any of this started to go down. I’ll always love the parks themselves, but my kids are getting older…and Universal is looking much better without my toddler-sized, rose-color, Minnie mouse glasses on.
P.s. For those of you still planning on going, pack a huge–a few–HUGE external batteries for all of this new nonsense. I mean, what happens if your phone dies/craps out in the heat? That’s your ticket, your pass, your (possible) hotel key, etc. etc. Sure, you’ll probably have a card-version, but then you’ll have to find someone to help you. Sheesh! They’re going to make a KILLING on renting those power banks out.
Folks, the magic is truly over when this hits the US parks later this year. For the average family that goes to WDW every 3-5 years (like me), this punishes us the most, especially families with multiple kids or larger parties. After spending thousands on a vacation package, including the actual admission to the park, I am STILL not guaranteed access to the must-do attractions. Unbelievable and completely unacceptable.
Given this was something that was always free, and we’re now being forced to pay (and not just a little more but ALOT more), this is nothing short of outrageous. The magic is truly over.
What would make more sense is for Disney to bring back FP+ and offer it as perk to on-site guests only, since there is literally ZERO benefit for staying onsite, with the loss of EMH and DME.
SHAME ON YOU, DISNEY!
Disney leaders need to have the old fable of “the goose that laid the golden egg” explained to them. Once you kill it you can’t go back. These guys are destroying the Disney “magic” that allowed them to charge such high prices (eliminating Magical Express, charging for hotel parking, etc). We all know FP will be no longer be part of the exorbitantly high priced tickets. Disney lifers like us have passed the Disney experience on to our kids and grandkids (not to mention still often paying for most of it). Once management sours the life long Disney enthusiasts for short term profits, they will reduce Disney parks to the same level as Busch Gardens, SeaWorld, and Universal. Those parks are fine but do not have the obsessively loyal following that Disney has. I hope the new “leaders” are proud of themselves.
If disney charges for fast pass, I think that STINKS!!!!
European disney fan previous paris annual passholder but that’s it for me disney have gone too far and made it prohibitively expensive for a family to enjoy. I’ll be looking elsewhere from now on
That’s fine but reduce the ticket entrance ticket price by $50.
We have visited from South Africa. Imagine paying 10x what you are paying. That’s us. Our exchange rate is R15:$1 so in real terms it could be 10x, or more or less. I am not an economist. But suffice it to say, its a lot more expensive for us!.
I have 2 special needs nieces who love being there. This isn’t Walt’s vision. Yes all businesses have to make money but too many these days are pandering to demands of shareholders and forget their real purpose.
To my nieces, it IS Mickey and not a person in a costume. We adults stood crying as we watched them meet Mickey the first time. THAT is what it should be about. Not to see how much money can be fleeced from people in a day.
They should be changing their definitions of visitors from ‘Guests’ to ‘Cashcows’ Of course no one forces anyone to go but that’s not the point. I am a 52 yo man and think Disney is magic and I love being there. So come on, stop buying companies and getting into more debt. Concentrate on providing magic to the families that are visiting Disney.
Fast Pass was a perk of purchasing the multiday admission tickets to Disneyland. These tickets are already expensive, increasing in price every couple of years, and now they are asking people to pay even more if they want to avoid having to wait 1-2 hours in line for a 2 minute ride? I love Disney but the line ups get insane and if you have young children, waiting that long in line in the heat is brutal! Honestly, if they implement this I foresee many people no longer opting for fast pass, making the lines even longer. They already had the option of paying an extra $50 a day per person if you wanted the ability to select fast passes using their app instead of having to go directly to the attraction to get one, is that really not good enough? You now have to gouge people per day, per ride? Very poor thinking on their part and so far removed from Walt’s dream for his parks. I truly hope that this does not come to fruition at the other parks :(
Poor people always get mad that the rich get more. Sorry it’s the way the world works. Can’t afford it or don’t like it then go to six flags.
This is so sad. Disney is a dream for so many families. They already save for a trip of a lifetime, knowing they’ll be paying for high priced food, souvenirs, tickets. Tack on even more Disney. Great call. The Fast Pass system allowed for everyone to get an equal shot at shortening some lines. This is against everything Disney should be